The Trainwreck That is Real Estate in the USA!
Because Mrs. Denmarkguy and I are planning to move from our fairly large house — expensive and energy draining to maintain — to something far smaller and more economical, I have recently spent more time than usual looking at real estate listings.
As I've alluded to before, part of the challenge in moving to smaller place is that fairly basic and reasonably affordable housing is becoming a scarcer and scarcer thing to find.
The "Gentrification" Problem
At least in our area, existing smaller houses are either being torn down and replaced with new construction of larger ”luxury” dwellings, or they are being purchased and renovated so that they can be transferred from ”affordable” to ”upmarket.”
Yesterday, I caught a fairly stunning example of how that happens, and how much it affects affordability.
A house popped up in my alerts, and it fit our specs on every mark except price. $675,000 is basically outside our price range for a 1500sf, 2 bedroom house. But I decided to look at some of the history on the house, and discovered that it had actually been listed and sold for $335,000 in February of 2023. Because it was not that long ago the listing (and photos) from that particular sale were still available and archived online.
The 2023 listing was basically for a decent, basic and in some respects dated house that was perfectly livable and had nothing significantly wrong with it. However, comparing it to the late 2024 listing it was obvious that somebody had bought it, ”luxuryfied” it was a bunch of modern high tech amenities, automation and countertops hand polished by Tibetan anti-bacterial virgins using organic yak spit so as to be able to take the same dwelling and now pretend it's worth... a bunch of money.
In comparing the two listings — purely from the perspective of livability — I would say that the upgrades that were made might be worth enough to make the house worth $425,000 or something in that range. Which basically means that there was some $250,000 worth of ”ego crap” added to the mixture.
Having been born and grown up in Denmark, and otherwise lived in about a dozen countries, I can't help but observe that there's no place I have ever been — aside from the United States — where the idea of ”luxury” carries so much weight, as to almost being an obsession/addiction.
And I'm totally aware that making such a statement is to a large degree cultural, but I look at all that "fluffery" and I can't possibly arrive at any tangible reason why it would make my bacon and eggs taste better in the morning, or how it would give me a better night's sleep.
From where I'm sitting, the old Shakespearean quote (from Hamlet) ”there's something rotten in the state of Denmark” seems more apropos if you apply it as ”there's something rotten in the United States!”
At least when it comes to housing, anyway.
As far as I can tell the problem isn't related to where we live, nor how we live. Instead, it can be tracked squarely to the fact that ”a house” here is no longer a place where we live; instead it is a commodity to be traded. Accordingly, it feels like the whole idea of ”having a home” has pretty much been thrown out the window. What I mean by that, is that there is a large number of people who no longer by real estate with the intent of it being their place to put down roots; instead they buy it as a place they can park themselves until they can sell and make a profit.
I'm not entirely sure what drives this particular paradigm — maybe it's just greed or a compulsion to find "instant riches" — but I'm pretty sure it is not sustainable in the long run.
If you extrapolate where we are now to a point some 20 years out in the future it looks remarkably like you could end up with a world in which a bunch of millionaires and investment companies trade houses with each other much like you trade stocks, while the actual people live in tents on the sidewalk outside the houses — which are empty — because the number of individuals who can actually afford the price of living in one of them is trending towards zero.
Yes, I realize that all sounds rather Orwellian... but these are front line observations that suggest that we may be heading down an unfortunate road...
Hive would have to go to $30 before I could even begin to make the economics work... and I doubt that's about to happen... although I'm open to being proven wrong!
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Nice screenshot. Good afternoon for today.
Thank you.
House prices seem to have sky rocketed over the last few years, maybe it's down to too many investors and not enough home owners. It seems everyone is looking for a house yet there are few to be found, especially with the price surge.
Happy house hunting, it sounds like you've the time to wait it out and hopefully find the perfect home.
There are actually loads of houses for sale around here... IF you have $750,000 to $1,000,000+ to spend. Which we do not! The whole purpose and intention here is to sell our current place, get a new smaller one, and have something left over to invest for the future and give us a little financial breathing room.
But hopefully we will find something... we have "good people" working with us.
Hmmmm, a lot of the things I wanted to do in the addition my husband tended to view through "resale value". There had to be overhead lights in each room, he would have fought tooth and nail over the height of the island counter, etc. And let's not talk about the bamboo flooring.. Sigh...
But I avoided most of it, because he was too sick/not here in the end. I wasn't looking at resale as this was to be an aging in place home.
I was in the property business a long time ago when I couldn't sell a condo after I had also bought a house... and decided then and there that I wanted to neither be a landlord, not be in the house-flipping business.
My former mother-in-law was a realtor, and she was eternally "resale value, resale value, resale value" and I was "I want to LIVE here for ME, not for someone who buys this place 10 years from now." To her, it was almost unthinkable that someone would stay in the same place more than 3-4 years...
People don't even STAY in their houses when they LIVE there. They must leave to relax...what's up with that???
I guess they get so utterly wrapped up in making the next dollar that they don't have time for such things as relaxing...
Thank you @ewkaw, appreciate the support!
The views are beautiful. Where is that house located? I imagine that if an investor bought it at 335k, invested time and money to shift it upmarket and thought it could generate a profit, that investor might have done some research prior, and he can perhaps find a buyer at that price (another investor ?)
The "luxury" places end up sitting for sale for a long time... people don't do much market research, it is more a rush to "cash in" on retirees from California who just sold their $2 million house in San Francisco or LA... most local people don't make enough money to support the property prices.
The real demand is for affordable houses, but nobody wants to mess with that because the profit margins are lower, even though the sales are almost immediate.
One of my best friends growing up lived in 3 bedroom house in a fairly affluent Seattle neighborhood. Compared to other near by homes it wasn’t very well maintained. And while the neighborhood is affluent, it is a few blocks away from the VERY affluent part of the same neighborhood. His parents had owned the home for over 50 years when they finally sold it last year.
The selling price was $1 million.
Shortly after selling, the buyer completely tore down the house. I drove by yesterday and a new monster home is going up in its place.
Could you ever imagine $1 million being the price to pay for a house you would just completely tear down?
Crazy.
Seattle is particularly crazy, when it comes to property prices... Our daughter and son-in-law bought an outdated, ill maintained 3/1 that has been a "hoarder house" in the Northgate area and paid $575K for what amounted to a "severe fixer." If it weren't the son-in-law being a contractor, it would likely have been a knockdown.
It's crazy. And who are the people who can afford those prices?
Very far from our reality here. It reminds me of a time when a family put up a structure overnight near our house, almost for "free." Though that's an urban poor area, at least they found a house to stay. What's interesting is that they are able to sell to two more families the extra space that they occupied.
Not something we see much, here.
The municipalities even make it very difficult to create affordable places to live, by setting up all kinds of laws to prohibit dwellings below a certain size, and even factory manufactured sheds and buildings have to meet strict building codes... so they end up no longer being inexpensive.
We cannot help but wonder now why those regulations were made in the first place. Of course, regulators will not run out of "worthy" reasons to create rules for building houses and factories. They say it's for public safety and health, efficient use of the land, maintaining property values, and others. However, I cannot help but think that such laws were made to maximize tax collection in the first place. The free country, indeed!