RE: Share Links to Your Hive Content on Reddit to Earn $HIVE and Win Prizes! đ HivePosh Contest #25
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Hello @x-rain, from what I've gathered, authors get 20% share of rewards if they are not responsible for sharing the links?
I don't know, it seems like a very unfair split considering what goes into creating content vs sharing a link. Why not 50/50?
Or 60/40 where the author keeps 60? Without the content being valuable(or at least intriguing), no traffic would be earned right(could even get deleted from Reddit)? It would only be fair to reward the authors more than 20%.
I just don't see what justifies sharers getting 80%.
Also, why isn't the actual content qualified to receive votes if it hasn't paid out and draws in traffic?
I just recently looked at this and I think the rewards need to be encouraging enough for authors to create more of what might interest people outside hive.
What do you @acidyo think?
No one shares content and most of the content on hive is close to worthless unless it gets some eyes on it and consumption. Even the 20% we added was just as a buffer to prevent authors from feeling it being unfair that sharers earn more if the post itself didn't get curated.
There are a ton of other curation projects and stakeholders on hive simply voting up content and not caring about if people are sharing them and trying to bring traffic into the ecosystem. We're limited with voting power as it is and lowering the amount sharers earn would just end up having no sharers again like the other 8+ years.
In many ways sharing content and bringing traffic here which might bring new users is a lot more worthy than content in and of itself in our opinion.
Except if authors don't create in first place, what's there to share?
Sharers can put out 100s of links weekly and earn a lot but authors are limited to what they can put out as content, I don't think it's a very balanced system.
Don't get me wrong, I understand why you want to reward people who share, but content everywhere is close to worthless.
The views don't really equate value either in a general sense, but if we consider them valuable because of potential new users then the content getting shared has to have been valuable in the first place because sharers have to go for the best to maximize reach, no?
Looking at most of the high payouts, I don't think sharers would be really mad about a 50/50 split, it's basically free money because they are sharing to communities with an already established audience.
You have to also understand that Hive content are mostly optimized for Hive audience because content has to appeal to the target readers, so giving authors more will encourage creating pieces that are valuable to a greater audience.
I've been here long enough to know that I could spend 8 hours researching and writing an article on the wonders of space travel and nobody will give a shit but if I step out and take pictures of a couple of pretty buildings I'd likely get more attention.
It's just what the audience here wants.
Just a honest observation.
Authors are free to make a reddit account and share their own article, it doesn't take a lot of time, that's not a close and secret group of sharers. They would earn 100% then. But if they don't bother...
Except that would lead to low quality content from Hive flooding Reddit which isn't good for Hive in the long run.
An example is what you seem to be doing right now with your account.
No offense, but that's what declining rewards tells me about what you feel about the content you put out.
@acidyo actually has a unique chance to make Hive content more valuable.
The standard shouldn't be views alone, I can easily write clickbaits and flood Reddit with it knowing I'll earn $20+?, I don't help Hive or Reddit in the process, just myself.
I actually love the idea of authors focusing on creating valuable content, curators focusing on rewarding them, and sharers bringing more reach to said content for a piece of the rewards.
Authors don't really need to do it all, yet they should be well rewarded for what they put out that's valuable and worth people discussing.
But tell me something, do you, as a sharer, generally feel bad(maybe robbed) about earning $10 for sharing a content as opposed to $16 for a $20 payout?
You are turning the topic here, your statement is: 80/20 is unfair for the article author. Answer: the author is free to make a reddit account and share that himself, nothing prevents that so he gets 100%
And you ignore why the incentives exist in the first place.
But thanks for proving that 50/50 isn't exactly bad.
I am an author, and my share was shared, which actually inspired me to join and start posting my own content. Most of the shares Iâve made are of my own work, and seeing it get visibility encouraged others to engage with it too.
I also share my content even if it doesnât get lots of views. For me, itâs more about putting my work out there, being part of the ecosystem, and hoping it resonates with someone eventually. That kind of exposure can be really motivating for creators, especially new ones who are just starting out. When your work gets noticed, it pushes you to keep creating, and sometimes even step up your game to reach a broader audience.
So while I understand the concerns about imbalance, I think thereâs real value in both roles, creation and distribution. The two can support each other in a way that grows the platform for everyone.
Please look at my shares. đ
I'm actually on your side without actually being against those sharing your content outside Hive or anyone else.
Glad to hear that it encourages you to keep creating, do have a good one.
I get your points re author vs sharer - one topic that could of course be discussed - but what I do not like is people telling established users such as @acidyo (who is not perfect for sure) that did and do a lot for the platform - what al is wrong - I realize you have not a lot Hive staked and what your earn seems to go immediately to Binance. Fair enough - no law against this but I would appreciate folks here to power up their stake to support Hive before they raise certain issues.
Just my thoughts.
I got a bit hasty after reading some of his comments to the others here. in general I think we should be a lot more rewarding to attempts trying to bring in traffic to our front ends, especially those that actually do something. Sure it may not be amazing but 1k views here, 2k here, etc is something other platforms would pay thousands for. Even I as one of the more read authors on hive due to genuine connections being here every day for 9 years don't really get more than 50-150 views on peakd on the important posts.
if it was up to me we'd have 10-20% of the reward pool go only to sharers, that's kind of why I wanna get a proposal going for posh because even with ocdb we don't have enough voting power to support posh, communities, other curation -and- onboarding and diverse other things we do with it due to price being low and everyone just too focused chasing random shittoken apr's or selfvoting through vote selling schemes.
Yeah I relly think over 1k views from outside is fantastic - when I check (and I am doing this not long) some of my shares (and from the other shares) are usually the most viewed posts on Hive that says a lot - it does not mean we automatically bring these viewers on board. Maybe a strategy for that could be discussed without advertising too heavily on Reddit :-).
If you need support for a proposal happy to help as I think this is a key amrekting thing to make us known outside (in a relaxed way) - also see you have struggles to cover all these new guys here wirh OCD, Posh only.
To me one of the marketing things ever happenend here.
I respect that.
Sincerely, I do.
But there are more ways than one to support Hive. I do my part when I get the time, certainly will do more even if I don't get in people's face talking about it.
@acidyo may not remember why he's even following me in the first place but it's because of this link below:
A promotion of POSH in a personal media I started at the time
I also ran paid ads at the time to try to bring eyes to it, the experiment didn't result in a lot of click throughs though, here's the stats on views at the time.
Posh isn't the only hive project I've tried to promote, did a lot with Inleo from general guides to occasionally including it in general reports.
Also had pop-up ads for Inleo on icoverage that got clicks but due to hive apps generally not being optimized to turn visitors to users, there wasn't any sign ups. I believe I talked about it on threads at some point.
So @uwelang I respect your opinion, but I've certainly made efforts that am not exactly giving up yet.
Icoverage is still active for a reason(the idea was to have a standard media that covers hive developmens), but without great projects here to talk about and the actual platforms being well optimized to convert visitors to users, most promotion efforts will be wasted.
I don't know why everyone seems to think am against what Acid is doing with RedditPosh, that's no way what I've been discussing here.
They aren't though, you can check @redditposh, there's barely 20-30 shares per day and most of them get no rewards cause they don't manage to get any attention there.
People are always going to create content, there's something like 80k weekly hive that has to go out to author and curator rewards so if you're not creating someone else will earn your rewards.
Not really sure why you're campaigning so much against this, no one's shared your posts and you've just returned to hive from the looks of it, so not really that interested in continuing this debate about it.
I'm not exactly campaigning against anything, just an opinion, you're very much free to decide what's best for your project and Hive in your view.
I've always talked about focusing on rewarding authors enough even though I don't post as much.
I did same when Inleo began premium and the whole ad revenue program, they never mentioned anything about what authors would actually get until I brought it up and I personally said I'd not pay for premium unless authors got paid in some from from it.
I've always talked about authors being prioritized, this isn't the first.
This isn't something I'll talk any further about myself, just had to throw it out there.
Have a good one.
kk my bad then, got a lot of haters latching onto random shit lately so suspected this might be something similar.
We can easily adjust the split later if there's more people who feel the same way, just a few months ago we barely had anyone even sharing successfully on reddit so it's all kind of new.
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@malopie, hey!
There are many curators who reward content creation. And there is only one that rewards promotion - HivePosh. If you consider your content rewards low, you should address someone else, not HivePosh. If you want 100% HivePosh rewards, you are welcome to join this initiative.
The fair amount would be 100% to sharers because HivePosh is an initiative that pays for promotion. When a company XYZ hires a marketing agency to share links to XYZ website pages, the company XYZ pays for this work to the marketing agency only, not to the content creators who wrote articles for the XYZ website.
HivePosh goes even further. We are saying loudly, saying weekly: guys, join us, anybody can be part of our marketing team.
I wrote many posts, "share your content and earn extra $HIVE", and @acidyo shared nearly half of them on his Hive blog - almost every active Hiver spotted these titles. But most people don't want.
Although it takes time and it's hard, but HivePosh finds active content creators, they join, regularly share, and earn 100% HivePosh rewards. 100% to the content creator sounds fair in this case.
Lol. Most Hive authors don't want to share a link to their content even when they are paid for that (by HivePosh). Do you think that something can encourage them to create more or create better?
All content creators on Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, Medium, etc, constantly share links to their content and constantly search for marketing opportunities - marketing is a part of content creation. Hive shouldn't be an exception.
About your posts. Many curators pay attention to KE. I don't know the details of how it exactly works, but from what I saw, when you have big KE, some curators do stop upvoting your posts. This is your KE:
It means very bad. Here: https://beebalanced.streamlit.app/
This is why you are ignored by curators. HivePosh doesn't look at KE. Join us and earn 100% HivePosh rewards. If you powerup part of these rewards, you can improve your KE and Hive curators might come back.
I think enough has been said already, this escalated into something far more than what I initially wanted to discuss so I'll just focus on responding to one part of your comment:
None of this had anything to do with me or my content personally. That part of my initial comment was to highlight how the target audience influences what authors will focus on, not to complain about my personal rewards.
Complaining about personal rewards is just stupid and not something I've ever engaged in.
All the best.
Itâs a very good perspective in your response @x-rain. I agree that creators often resist promoting themselves. Thatâs because theyâve settled into their ways on Hive, staying in their comfort zone, and they donât want the hassle of stepping outside the community. People on platforms like Reddit can be harsh, especially if the content creators arenât confident in what theyâre doing. I found it hard at first, and some people just donât want to deal with that kind of pressure, especially if theyâre already earning on Hive and are happy with it.
For me, as a content creator, I found the challenge to be a good way to see what else I can do. It's about exploring what level I can reach. But I understand that not everyone feels the same way about it. HivePosh gives people the choice to join or not. However, sharing creators' content doesnât always require permission; once you put your content online, it's bound to be shared. So, in my opinion, I may as well share and learn from it, which I have learned a lot from. There are plenty of knowledgeable people, and also trolls, whom I just ignore. Thatâs something creators resist, but itâs part of being out there.
As for giving a higher reward ratio to the sharer, I think thatâs okay too. Sharing isnât easy. You have to deal with a lot out there, plus the time and effort it takes. Itâs not just about clicking a share button. I know from experience that it can actually be harder than creating the content itself.
True! It's hard sometimes. I mostly don't read comments to be sure nobody would harm me. So many unstable people, angry. Like... I remember some person attacked me hard and I got mad and decided to see their profile... And then I saw multiple comments of this person about some difficult disease they were trying to cure - and I realized, yes, that explained a lot.
Sure. Some posts are created for sharing but some are tough. If you are too quick - you can get your share removed for the untidy title or wrong flair. If you are slow - someone can share first while you are choosing a better title. You need to learn each subreddit, you should engage here and there to keep your profile nice-looking. And so on and so on.
It doesnât excuse the behaviour, but it helps make sense of it and makes it easier to be forgiving. Sharing takes a lot of courage, and weâre all just trying our best. Experience teaches us so much along the way.
I also think this is not fair to give the sharer much more than the creator.