Ordering the Monster Raffle Prize Draw
There are a lot of prizes that have been donated for the SGS Monster Raffle, but which prize should be drawn first? Different members value silver differently and while I’m a dedicated Stacker myself I am certainly no expert when it comes to valuing some of the more obscure or unique pieces that have been donated. There is a case that can be made for trying to order the prize draw by value, but there’s also a case for making the prize draw order totally random. Stay with me while I walk through the thinking….
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The Monster Raffle Prize Draw happens LIVE on the SGS Discord and one of the benefits (incentives) for being present at the draw is this - If you get a winning ticket you can choose from one of the unclaimed prizes still left. We have always done it this way to try to encourage people to come online and generate a bit of excitement and buzz around the event as well as foster a bit of social interaction amongst current (and potential future) members. This aspect of the Monster Raffle I don’t think we should change, but it has some implications.
The case for ordering the prize draw by value is based on being fair to ticket purchasers who are not available for the live draw. If you are the first ticket drawn then by default you should get the best prize still available so the best prizes should be drawn first, right? But then if you start trying to value and rank every prize donation then it’s a point of conjecture in itself. People value things differently and nobody wants to end up being the last prize – considered the least valuable. All the prizes are appreciated so it’s a bit rude to be valuing one prize the least….to be drawn last. Nobody wants that dubious honor....
However, the case for a random draw order is a bit unfair for those who can’t make the live draw and we have members from lots of different Time Zones which might make it hard for them to be present. There might be some kick-ass prizes unclaimed but if you’re not present to choose then you might end up with something of significantly less value by default. We can possibly address this by allowing people to nominate a Proxy – who can choose prizes on another ticket holders behalf, though there is another whole can of worms to open if we’re going to try and record and manage all the Proxies for every ticket holder. Allowing Proxies to choose might also take away one of the great incentives to join in and be present at the live event.
My gut feel is that maybe a hybrid approach might be best. Maybe a Top 3 or Top 6 prizes can be ordered by value and drawn first, followed by the rest of the prizes drawn randomly. We can allow Proxies this time to help people out who can’t be present and see if/when that becomes a big administrative burden and/or detracts from the live attendance. That said….how would we even decide which are the Top 3 or Top 6 prizes? Does anyone want to throw out some suggestions on how best to approach this?
Ticket Sales will begin in a few days so it would be good to have our Prize Draw sorted before then. What do people think?
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Just waiting for the start to buy some tickets
I was thinking that the top items would be drawn LAST by order of value for a dramatic climax to the event, giving more time for late participants to join in. This Proxy thing sounds complicated.
Interesting idea. This would heavily favor those present in the Discord unless we removed the ability for people to choose their own prizes.
Might be hard to do with the following also in place but alone I’d like the idea indeed! Just think ur right it would forever some. This is cool though and I wasn’t aware! I like giving people extra reason to be present live! Cheers 🍻
“ choose from one of the unclaimed prizes still left. We have always done it this way to try to encourage people to come online and generate a bit of excitement and buzz around the event“
That would be great and also each Silver prize is unique on its own. It's hard to categorise then number 1, number 2.
The time zone problem really is a thing for Hive hey 😂 we are all one big community yet we live so far apart.
Goodluck with all of that!
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I got curious about how the raffle takes place and this was fun to read, although I see in the comment section that nothing seems to be set in stone. Either way, if time zones allow me to, I will be there present, as I'm hoping to buy a few tickets..
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That is a tough call. I understand how difficult it can be with all the moving parts you need to consider. I think as others have said, they usually leave the biggest stuff for last. That might not always be easy to determine though.
You are really making this complicated. 😂 😉
The last couple, the prize draw was in no particular order. Probably just the order they were submitted or of how they were recorded in one of the posts someone wrote.
We’ve always had informal proxies. If I wasn’t there I always gave summer my “list”. Ha ha, but I have never had my ticket drawn. And I know in years past if someone wasn’t there people would often pipe up and say oh he/she wants this one, or we would just let them keep the prize that was drawn.
The order of the prizes doesn’t really matter if you let people choose which prize anyway.
All that said…
I like @kerrislravenhill’s idea. 😃 Controversially, I also like the idea of taking the choice aspect out and just having people win the item their name is picked against. But I see that would lessen the incentive to be present. But that also adds some fairness for people who can’t be there because of work, other commitments or time zone.
😂🤣😂 Now I am overthinking it! 🙃🤗
I'm trying to avoid disappointment and complaints. If I make too many unilateral decisions on the details like this then I leave myself open, so I'm trying to get the community involved in the decision making process. To do that I need to explain the consequences of various choices...
If you take a look through the comments we have lots of different ideas on how it should work and I've got more in discord chats too. Whatever decision is made is unlikely to be unanimous.....so I may have opened a can of worms here. Cest la vie!
Prizes drawn in the order they posted your list works.
If you're present you get a choice of any prize still on the list, if you're not present you get the next one on the list. No proxy.
Eliminating the choice is a way more boring approach but perhaps the most fair and simple, each prize is assigned a number and then whoever draws that particular ticket(number) gets that particular prize
I would say that this is getting hard but I just see you as someone who is skilled and can perform magic to this...lol
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First draw is first prize on pre-established “list.” If yer name gets picked you win that prize. Then next, then next etc.
Weirdos can always swap whatever they want whenever they want around here, and I include myself in that list.
1 ozers, then 2 ozers, then 3 etc.
Finish off with the big 5 oz prizes .
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I like the way we’ve always done it. How about assigning a number to each prize, then use a random number generator to determine which prize the person not present gets. Obviously if it draws a number already taken you redraw. I think this is a much fairer option.
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It hasn't always been the same. Early on we did promote a 1st, 2nd, 3rd prize.
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😊🤙sound good!
I like Kerris' idea. And to everything like before!
What if a Person buys "more" tickets than anyone else... Will they be allowed to win more than One Prize...???
Yes, you can win more than 1 prize but you can not win 2 prizes with the same 1 ticket.